Comments on: iPhone India launch: Aug 18? http://www.bhatnaturally.com/apple/iphone-india-launch-aug-18/ Ramblings on Advertising, Apple and New Media Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:34:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bhatnaturally http://www.bhatnaturally.com/apple/iphone-india-launch-aug-18/#comment-394 bhatnaturally Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:32:04 +0000 http://www.bhatnaturally.com/?p=668#comment-394 Dilip, thanks for the comment and a long 'sigh' on the iPhone hatred. Just as you cannot convince a non-Apple fan about why the Apple experience is superior, you cannot convince someone who has experienced the iPhone/iPod Touch that is crap, that too compared to HTC and the likes. The iPhone has redefined the way mobiles are used and as a smartphone user currently, my personal vote is for the iPhone vis-a-vis other smartphones. Dilip, thanks for the comment and a long ‘sigh’ on the iPhone hatred. Just as you cannot convince a non-Apple fan about why the Apple experience is superior, you cannot convince someone who has experienced the iPhone/iPod Touch that is crap, that too compared to HTC and the likes. The iPhone has redefined the way mobiles are used and as a smartphone user currently, my personal vote is for the iPhone vis-a-vis other smartphones.

]]> By: Dilip Muralidaran http://www.bhatnaturally.com/apple/iphone-india-launch-aug-18/#comment-391 Dilip Muralidaran Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:16:36 +0000 http://www.bhatnaturally.com/?p=668#comment-391 I use a HTC Diamond that runs Windows Mobile 6.1. Without any jail breaking or installing crap-ware on my phone i can do every piece of shit the iPhone cannot do out of the box. The iPhone will be sold exclusively by Airtel / Vodafone so we can be assured that the phones are going to be LOCKED! That means once you install a third party application to break and make features with your mobile, please be assured your warranty on the phone is void. I'm just hearing from sladshot that the new firmware update for iPhone 3G is throwing many phones dead. Suppose that you installed a stupid application to enable video recording. Your firmware update crashes your phone, vodafone or airtel will ask you to buy a new phone of pay from your pocket for your service. That's how serious it is. Apple products clearly are not for the middle class indian market if you are considering value for money. User experience is all about what features you provide and how effectively those features can be used in a reliable manner. The only thing i may buy the iPhone is for that zoom in and zoom out multi touch feature on the phone which i can use to impress non tech savvy figure's and put some kadalai. Apart from that as a tech savvy smart phone user i have no use for the iPhone. In fact i would not even compare my HTC Windows Mobile to beat the iPhone. I own a Sony Ericsson p990i. Given any day it beats the crap out of the iPhone and does wonderful stuff. I use a HTC Diamond that runs Windows Mobile 6.1. Without any jail breaking or installing crap-ware on my phone i can do every piece of shit the iPhone cannot do out of the box.

The iPhone will be sold exclusively by Airtel / Vodafone so we can be assured that the phones are going to be LOCKED! That means once you install a third party application to break and make features with your mobile, please be assured your warranty on the phone is void. I’m just hearing from sladshot that the new firmware update for iPhone 3G is throwing many phones dead.

Suppose that you installed a stupid application to enable video recording. Your firmware update crashes your phone, vodafone or airtel will ask you to buy a new phone of pay from your pocket for your service. That’s how serious it is. Apple products clearly are not for the middle class indian market if you are considering value for money.

User experience is all about what features you provide and how effectively those features can be used in a reliable manner. The only thing i may buy the iPhone is for that zoom in and zoom out multi touch feature on the phone which i can use to impress non tech savvy figure’s and put some kadalai. Apart from that as a tech savvy smart phone user i have no use for the iPhone.

In fact i would not even compare my HTC Windows Mobile to beat the iPhone. I own a Sony Ericsson p990i. Given any day it beats the crap out of the iPhone and does wonderful stuff.

]]> By: george http://www.bhatnaturally.com/apple/iphone-india-launch-aug-18/#comment-345 george Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:00:29 +0000 http://www.bhatnaturally.com/?p=668#comment-345 Well, the Mac versus PC debate will continue, as will the debate of the chicken and egg! But a gamer like myself will also have a ready defence for the PC! And that's with no disrespect to the Mac whatsoever! Well, the Mac versus PC debate will continue, as will the debate of the chicken and egg! But a gamer like myself will also have a ready defence for the PC! And that’s with no disrespect to the Mac whatsoever!

]]> By: bhatnaturally http://www.bhatnaturally.com/apple/iphone-india-launch-aug-18/#comment-343 bhatnaturally Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:19:10 +0000 http://www.bhatnaturally.com/?p=668#comment-343 George, thanks for the comment. I don't agree with the analogy though. Your analogy suggests that Mac is never as good and if you want a good PC, stick with non-Apple products. As someone who uses both, I could not disagree more. George, thanks for the comment. I don’t agree with the analogy though. Your analogy suggests that Mac is never as good and if you want a good PC, stick with non-Apple products. As someone who uses both, I could not disagree more.

]]> By: george http://www.bhatnaturally.com/apple/iphone-india-launch-aug-18/#comment-342 george Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:03:51 +0000 http://www.bhatnaturally.com/?p=668#comment-342 I would compare the i phone, like i would the mac, to a 7 star hotel meal. The food's never as good as you expect it to be. But the service,ambience and show off value- UNPARALLELED! I am one for paying that little extra just for the experience. If you want good food, stay at home and eat mom's cooking! If you want a good PC......need i say more? I would compare the i phone, like i would the mac, to a 7 star hotel meal. The food’s never as good as you expect it to be. But the service,ambience and show off value- UNPARALLELED! I am one for paying that little extra just for the experience. If you want good food, stay at home and eat mom’s cooking! If you want a good PC……need i say more?

]]> By: bhatnaturally http://www.bhatnaturally.com/apple/iphone-india-launch-aug-18/#comment-340 bhatnaturally Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:30:46 +0000 http://www.bhatnaturally.com/?p=668#comment-340 Suresh, I am not a fan of jailbreaking but agree wholeheartedly on all the points! Opera Mini or any browser (even in Communicator with a wide screen) is no match to the iPhone/iPod Touch. Apart from the in-built stocks (even the weather looks mouth watering!) the App Store has really cool Apps. I have posted some screen shots in my earlier post. And if you have wi-fi, Virgin Radio and other radio stations are available. Despite all this, we have only seen the beginning of Apple haters in India. They will get louder closer to the iPhone and future updates/launches. Suresh, I am not a fan of jailbreaking but agree wholeheartedly on all the points! Opera Mini or any browser (even in Communicator with a wide screen) is no match to the iPhone/iPod Touch. Apart from the in-built stocks (even the weather looks mouth watering!) the App Store has really cool Apps. I have posted some screen shots in my earlier post. And if you have wi-fi, Virgin Radio and other radio stations are available. Despite all this, we have only seen the beginning of Apple haters in India. They will get louder closer to the iPhone and future updates/launches.

]]> By: suresh http://www.bhatnaturally.com/apple/iphone-india-launch-aug-18/#comment-339 suresh Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:17:14 +0000 http://www.bhatnaturally.com/?p=668#comment-339 Hi, After seeing all the comments here..i feel there are lot of wrong sentiments abt iphone in india.i Personally use a first gen(2.5G) iphone in india. Here are some things we can do on a jailbroken iphone or iphone with appstore(i have both). 1. yes , video recording is possible with third party apps.(presently the app is not available for 2.0, but soon will). 2. iphone 2mp camera is way better than, thanks to the big viewfinder, the whole screen(3.5" screen) picture. 3. Mp3 ringtones are possible in jailbroken iphone(jail breaking is very simple). 4. Nextversion 2.1 has copy-paste support. Iphone has some features where mainstream high end indian mobile users never heard of(trust me, i was clueless before i got my hands on iphone) 1. it has accelerometer, play super monkey ball with iphone, u will know. 2. a very good stock app, which updates your stock symbols with yahoo finance. 3. a very good mail client, accessing your mails never been so easy. 4. full html browser(can you guys tell me one phone which has full html browser. Opera mini is crap) and one more things for apple haters, Can you tell one company which releases a phone and keeps updating the firmware( i myself updated 4 times, and each update brings new features). Hi,
After seeing all the comments here..i feel there are lot of wrong sentiments abt iphone in india.i Personally use a first gen(2.5G) iphone in india. Here are some things we can do on a jailbroken iphone or iphone with appstore(i have both).
1. yes , video recording is possible with third party apps.(presently the app is not available for 2.0, but soon will).
2. iphone 2mp camera is way better than, thanks to the big viewfinder, the whole screen(3.5″ screen) picture.
3. Mp3 ringtones are possible in jailbroken iphone(jail breaking is very simple).
4. Nextversion 2.1 has copy-paste support.
Iphone has some features where mainstream high end indian mobile users never heard of(trust me, i was clueless before i got my hands on iphone)

1. it has accelerometer, play super monkey ball with iphone, u will know.
2. a very good stock app, which updates your stock symbols with yahoo finance.
3. a very good mail client, accessing your mails never been so easy.
4. full html browser(can you guys tell me one phone which has full html browser. Opera mini is crap)
and one more things for apple haters, Can you tell one company which releases a phone and keeps updating the firmware( i myself updated 4 times, and each update brings new features).

]]> By: bhatnaturally http://www.bhatnaturally.com/apple/iphone-india-launch-aug-18/#comment-338 bhatnaturally Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:40:14 +0000 http://www.bhatnaturally.com/?p=668#comment-338 Santosh, thanks for the comment. Yes, the iPhone lacks some features fond even in the most basic of competing phones. It may not pass muster with a large number of users in India. But I can only speak for myself. I use an E Series now but hardly use the video recording or MMS facility. Will I miss them if my phone did not have them? Yes, I will. Do I feel that the iPhone is still better for an overall user experience? Sure do. Having used 'an iPhone without the phone' - the iPod Touch, I find web browsing a pleasure only on this mobile device. For me the big deal about the iPhone is the OS, the interface, the App Store and overall ease of use. I am willing to overlook the flaws (and there are many) and trade in what I believe is a better user experience. Naturally, many (especially in India where the Apple halo is non-existent) would see it as typical fanboy talk. It is perhaps to do with Apple as brand evoking that kind of loyalty in some. Santosh, thanks for the comment. Yes, the iPhone lacks some features fond even in the most basic of competing phones. It may not pass muster with a large number of users in India. But I can only speak for myself. I use an E Series now but hardly use the video recording or MMS facility. Will I miss them if my phone did not have them? Yes, I will. Do I feel that the iPhone is still better for an overall user experience? Sure do. Having used ‘an iPhone without the phone’ – the iPod Touch, I find web browsing a pleasure only on this mobile device. For me the big deal about the iPhone is the OS, the interface, the App Store and overall ease of use. I am willing to overlook the flaws (and there are many) and trade in what I believe is a better user experience. Naturally, many (especially in India where the Apple halo is non-existent) would see it as typical fanboy talk. It is perhaps to do with Apple as brand evoking that kind of loyalty in some.

]]> By: Santosh http://www.bhatnaturally.com/apple/iphone-india-launch-aug-18/#comment-337 Santosh Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:56:41 +0000 http://www.bhatnaturally.com/?p=668#comment-337 <em>It does not have video recording</em> yes, it does not. And yes, we do need video recording. Wouldn't you rather have something instead of not having it at all? And seriously, it is a BASIC functionality. Even the sub-5k phones have it. So why not the iPhone? <em>can't [..]use mp3 songs as ringtone</em> yes, I do use mp3 songs on my phone as ringtone. I wouldn't like to be seen with the same ringtone that every other phone user uses. Again, the basic models have it. WHy not the iPhone? Consider the lack of bluetooth connectivity with other phones. What's up with that? And once again, even the OLDest of the old phones can do proper data transfer between other phones. So HAH! Copy-paste. Where did that go? Ain't that something cramping so-called "user experience"? I am looking to buy the iPhone myself, but seriously, I do not say that it is better than the N & E series phones from Nokia. They are entirely different. Are the N series phones still stuck with the ancient 2MP cam with no flash? Hell no. Xenon flash with a 5MP cam FTW. It does not have video recording

yes, it does not. And yes, we do need video recording. Wouldn’t you rather have something instead of not having it at all? And seriously, it is a BASIC functionality. Even the sub-5k phones have it. So why not the iPhone?

can’t [..]use mp3 songs as ringtone
yes, I do use mp3 songs on my phone as ringtone. I wouldn’t like to be seen with the same ringtone that every other phone user uses. Again, the basic models have it. WHy not the iPhone?

Consider the lack of bluetooth connectivity with other phones. What’s up with that? And once again, even the OLDest of the old phones can do proper data transfer between other phones. So HAH!

Copy-paste. Where did that go? Ain’t that something cramping so-called “user experience”?

I am looking to buy the iPhone myself, but seriously, I do not say that it is better than the N & E series phones from Nokia. They are entirely different. Are the N series phones still stuck with the ancient 2MP cam with no flash? Hell no. Xenon flash with a 5MP cam FTW.

]]> By: bhatnaturally http://www.bhatnaturally.com/apple/iphone-india-launch-aug-18/#comment-336 bhatnaturally Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:55:19 +0000 http://www.bhatnaturally.com/?p=668#comment-336 Krish, I agree that India is more mobile-savvy than the US. They still operate largely on analog networks and don't have the Value Added Services we take for granted. My US-based bro was wide eyed listening to the ring tones here. On the hype front, the iPhone trashers suggest that Apple is all hype and no content- and that bugs me no end. I remember seeing a CNBC-TV18 review of the Macbook - the reviewer said that it was over priced, lacks features becasue it does not have a PCIMCA card slot and all that its good for was playing with the F11 (Expose) key! Whether iPhone is a rage or not in India, depends on the volume targets Apple has for India. Krish, I agree that India is more mobile-savvy than the US. They still operate largely on analog networks and don’t have the Value Added Services we take for granted. My US-based bro was wide eyed listening to the ring tones here. On the hype front, the iPhone trashers suggest that Apple is all hype and no content- and that bugs me no end. I remember seeing a CNBC-TV18 review of the Macbook – the reviewer said that it was over priced, lacks features becasue it does not have a PCIMCA card slot and all that its good for was playing with the F11 (Expose) key! Whether iPhone is a rage or not in India, depends on the volume targets Apple has for India.

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